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Condor Nr.21 improved

5,184 SimonGlaser  5.6 years ago
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This is (maybe) the world's first flying plane with engines (i think the Flyer was the 2th plane). It is from Gustav Weißkopf (Gustave Whitehead) and it flew in 1901. I think i am the first one who build this plane, excuse me that it looks like shit but im simply no replica builder. Drive the plane with throttle and yaw (it has an extra engine for the wheels!!). To fly, activate the propellers with 1 and deactivate the car Engine with 8. Steering is normal. Have fun!
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(I only changed the position of the car engine and the stabilizing mast)

Here are some pictures:


Oh no, they don't work anymore

General Characteristics

  • Predecessor Condor Nr.21
  • Created On Windows
  • Wingspan 29.0ft (8.8m)
  • Length 32.3ft (9.8m)
  • Height 9.4ft (2.9m)
  • Empty Weight 2,122lbs (962kg)
  • Loaded Weight 2,388lbs (1,083kg)

Performance

  • Power/Weight Ratio 1.881
  • Wing Loading 26.9lbs/ft2 (131.3kg/m2)
  • Wing Area 88.8ft2 (8.3m2)
  • Drag Points 4246

Parts

  • Number of Parts 57
  • Control Surfaces 4
  • Performance Cost 231
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    5,184 SimonGlaser

    @ThePilotDude ok, then that would be resolved ... have a nice day

    5.6 years ago
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    35.8k ThePilotDude

    @SimonGlaser
    Ok, personally I don't believe in any of the pre-Wright claims due to many reasons, but you can believe what you want

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    5,184 SimonGlaser

    @ThePilotDude Weißkopf had many witnesses, including those he had not asked to watch, and they confirmed he had flown. Oh, by the way, others say that already in 1890 the first plane flew with engine
    (http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/maxim.html)

    5.6 years ago
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    35.8k ThePilotDude

    @SimonGlaser well, the requirement of a rail doesn't determine whether it flew or not, because the Flyer I, II, and III did. Yes the frame was made of metal, and replicas are made of lightweight, modern materials, and definitely not a steam engine. While Whitehead had a good design, as it is probably one of the earliest examples of a "modern" aircraft design, in respect to the wing placement, he was limited to things available to his time, which is why the Wrights spent a long time obtaining the right engine and materials, as well as making several unpowered gliders to perfect their design.

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    5,184 SimonGlaser

    @ThePilotDude Thanks, but they needed a rail to start their plane. But this plane has wheels and don't need any rails... and I would have thought that only the engine was metal and the rest light wood. And the original replicas of the Condor Nr.21 are flying, but the replicas of the Flyer not always (1 person died!!).
    But it may be that I am wrong. If so, sorry.

    5.6 years ago
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    35.8k ThePilotDude

    Whitehead never flew, at least not in this, not before the Wright Bros. His aircraft had an almost all metal frame and a steam engine, getting that to fly would be impossible, as well as the fact that no pictures are available and the one primary source for this is one article written long after the supposed flights, leads most of the aviation world to disregard his claims, but this is a good SP build nonetheless! Good job!

    5.6 years ago