@ToeTips oh defo, theyre completely meant for one single map and nothing else, theyre bad cars ignoring those races

@Axartar
XML modding taken to its extremes. One thing about those cars they only work well on SPs vanilia circuits, a realistic track however...

@ToeTips Yeaaahhhhhh, those ones, I made one for a race once, I have no idea how people make those insane race winning planes or cars

@Axartar
Oh! Cars that V makes? Cars that you need high physics and slow mo to drive around.

@ToeTips yeah, reaching insane speeds, basically glued to the ground. with turning that doesn't flip it, in a relatively small turning radius

@Axartar
Hyper maneuverable cars?

@ToeTips yeah, lol, or hyper-maneuverable cars, they make up some of my favourite things, i just cant make them to save my life lol

@Axartar
Yeah! If done correctly, otherwise after a few tricks your left with a beyblade in the sky. Then doing it realistically is another story.

@ToeTips I agree tbf and one of my favourite thing is supermaneuverable stuff, they’re all so fun to fly

@Axartar
Sometimes it is very specific to the flight model. There's a flight model I made (the blue jet in my profile) that would become supermaneuverable when the COM was barely close to the COL, any closer and it would become uncontrollable. No matter what I did, that flaw persisted. It flys like a dream if the COM is far enough away though.

@ToeTips style points, but yeah that's what I meant about drag being a pain, I want stuff to fly or move, just without all the weird stuff

@Axartar
True, but that depends on the plane, what if its character is to backflip for no reason?

@ToeTips thats fair and honestly something I should do, but I feel like the weird drag makes the flight feel unique on each build and gives the thing some character.

@Axartar
Oh I see, well it is best to remove drag
all drag and add it back in a controlled manner cause where you have drag can affect how you fly.

@ToeTips Idk its more in the sense of like I build a slim build or a giant build then making it fly can be really tough because of drag and stuff

@Axartar
How? Like in what way?

@ToeTips thats fair enough, I started doing that a little, draw a sketch, then make a skeleton etc, but does make the actual flight and stuff tough sometimes

@Axartar
Thats kinda how I build too, but with a blueprint. Basically I get the general shape of the blueprint and just wing it from there.

@ToeTips yeah, most builds I make I think of, build a skeleton, then flesh it out, then make it work.

@Axartar
Like you just have an idea and run with it?

@ToeTips It depends, you could argue that my latest mech dog was high detail, or some of my other builds, but no hyper detailed replicas, I like making stuff thats got no blueprint

@Axartar
Yeah, looking to build something hyper detailed too, although that might be a while. Have you built something on that level before?

@ToeTips I'm afraid I honestly have no idea, I didnt speak much or maybe at all to the builder, and it was years ago, but theres defo a few in the same boat, like every build being like insanely upvoted and they get gold in less than a month

@Axartar
What did he build?

@ToeTips I remember like a couple of years ago there was a real boom of new high quality builders and I have a feeling one got gold after like 3 or 4 builds it was insane