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Is it possible to make an autopilot system without a gyroscope? (HELP NEEDED)

16.4k ThePrototype  5.6 years ago

I'm trying to make an autopilot for my Avion III, but my last two attempts have failed, So is it possible to one without a gyroscope? and the reason I'm noting using a gyroscope is because the Avion III's "Autopilot" system did not have a gyroscope

Here is the Avion, if you are on a browser just translate the page. The French page is much more descriptive

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    30.6k Warbrine

    @ThePrototype ok i will. to clafiy it is a fixed angle gyroscope that i made pre gyroscope update if you want to use in your project you will have to adjust it to fit your needs.
    gyro by itself
    example using it with basic functionality

    you can use it and make very complicated functionality like all direction tilt and stuff. It exploits a bug in the physics of the game. To make it suite you it will take a lot of modifying .

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    Would you mind linking me to it? I just wanna see how to works @Warbrine

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    30.6k Warbrine

    Yes it Is. It's possible but complicated . I've made a universal mechanism for that but it requires the use of a takeoff platform

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    11.3k LiamW

    Came up with that on the spot lol @Zyvx

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    9,165 Zyvx

    @LiamW this is a real method of leveling, good thought.

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    9,165 Zyvx

    If you have a hinged weight on a pole that is connected to the center of mass that starts towards the back helping for lift, and swings forward like a wrecking ball shifting weight to center of plane but lower than fuselage creating that person to glider effect. With pistons and hinges you could also manipulate the direction the weight hangs til your plane is flying level. The moving weight will have to be heavy enough that you will know it works as soon as forward hanging causes dive and back hanging causes lift. Then work on making it able to swing side to side to where it can turn your plane slowly. Get all four directions and the weight itself could control the plane. Some of my infinite flyer creations use the weight shifting to prevent altitude loss, even though they use gyros, but they gave me the idea above. I have another idea, but its complex, and yet too be tested. I will let you know of any other findings. A generic auto level trick is to have the weight free hang from the com, the heaviest part of a structure likes to go down first, like lawn darts. Picture gravity as your leveler. Hope this helps.

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    That's what I'm trying to figure out.... I've tried 2 systems of my own design. They have both failed @Minecraftpoweer

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    @ThePrototype but did you find out how it worked? like if it shifted the weight or something?

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    It pretty much leveled the craft out if it rolled to one side, since most people thought an aircraft had to be stable in the air @Minecraftpoweer

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    @ThePrototype ok there wans't a lot on wikipedia in English as you said but what did the autopilot do?

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    The plane had a primitive autopilot system and I intend to replicate it. And turning wont be a problem since i can just put a small rudder in the front to increase your turning time @Minecraftpoweer

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    Also the plane had other forms of Control, increasing and decreasing the wing area, moving the wing froward and aft, and twisting the wing tips up and down @Minecraftpoweer

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    @ThePrototype also why do you need it to be stable but without gyro? like wing leveling mode or what?

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    @ThePrototype so it will make a 180 turn in 3,5 years? XD

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    Also the version you are talking about is the Éole, completely different than the Avion besides the engine and the basic design @Minecraftpoweer

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    My version will be able to fly, and it turns with the rudder. The wings having dihedral add a small amount of vertical lift so when you use the rudder it rolls the craft in the direction you are trying to turn @Minecraftpoweer

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    @ThePrototype the thing can't even turn. i mean if you are making the later version it had yaw Controls but nothing else and it shoudn't be able to fly more than 100 meters so why are you making it?

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    But I'm stubborn and refuse to..... @Minecraftpoweer

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    @ThePrototype but you can just hide it

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    Update @Nerfenthusiast

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    @Minecraftpoweer @Spacedoge12345plane update

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    16.4k ThePrototype

    @XjayIndustrys I will tag you on an unlisted post

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    Oh ok i dont think so without a gyro @ThePrototype

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    Dude link me to the Avion 3. I love that “technically not powered flight"

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    why don't you just use a gyro?

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