@Boeing727200F I've no idea.

so, now what?

@StockPlanesRemastered ?

@Graingy oh that's a virus

@StockPlanesRemastered I did. Only a small number of BAK files since my laptop was wiped.

@Graingy hmm. Still go check your username data file.

@winterro I only keep my active saves loaded (currently it's just 6, all SWL-120 stuff). Not so much for steam cloud reasons, but to keep my saves list clean. The other 780 files of version history are organized in a folder (with subfolders) elsewhere. The most I would lose is a day of progress, since I backup anything I do to the other folder.

@StockPlanesRemastered This has nothing to do with SimplePlanes 2. It is SimplePlanes that is the problem - where everything of importance was.

Which game? Are you on the demo? This sounds like a cross confusion problem with the user data.

Go to THIS PC>USERS>YOU'RE NAME>APPDATA>LOCALLOW>JUNDROO>SIMPLEPLANES>AIRCRAFT DESIGNS. also check the simpleplanes 2 folder if you're running the demo.

@winterro wow. Sounds time consuming.

here's a reason why i have a backup drive with 42 280 creations on it

@Boeing727200F nothing to do.
@AndrewGarrison Yeah, wasn’t expecting anything to be possible on your end. Though there was no dialogue, it was entirely spontaneous.
@32 I think that’s fundamentally impossible. Steam accounts are still named the same thing internally, it was fine the first day, and level progress was retained. None of the things a new account do happened.

Ok so I don’t think you’re stupid but one thing that I would probably do would be accidentally create a new Steam account? It would still show all your games as installed on the device, but will it let you play them? It may have messed up during the name change process and somehow glitched you into making a new account.

Ouch, so sorry to hear that Graingy! Sadly there's nothing we can do to help. Hopefully you're able to recover them! Steam Cloud can really stab you in the back if you misclick in that dialog.

any luck?

@HuskyDynamics01 hm

@Graingy The SP2 demo also wouldn't have been subjected to the laptop wipe, so it wouldn't have been missing anything if the Cloud re-backed it up for some reason.

@LM0418 har de har har.

@HuskyDynamics01 That's a lot
Yet I have backup files, but those craft aren't in the cloud. Nothing is. Very odd...
And I think so? Probably? Haven't really checked I don't think.
I assume that SP2 demo would also be on cloud, and it's been fine.

Release the graingy files

@Graingy It should include the simple ones, they're technically stock crafts as well. (You could always just redownload them manually if it doesn't, though.)

All the dates being the same is interesting, and might actually tell us a lot about what happened. I've done a little more research and my original description of how the Steam Cloud works wasn't quite correct; it should only update files that you've edited (and it only actually updates on game close, but that's probably not relevant). That's a key thing though, because by that logic all of the dates should correlate to when you last updated the relevant files. I checked mine for comparison and it does indeed have a bunch of different dates that all appear to roughly match the last time I edited those craft files. So, if yours were all created at the same time this morning, that means that for some reason Steam Cloud updated all of the local files it found on your laptop at the same time. The only reason I can think of for it to back up everything at once is if the previous cloud copy somehow disappeared and it had to create a new one.

I can draw a general hypothetical timeline for what might have happened:
1) At various points in the past, Steam Cloud backed up your craft files as you modified them, creating a cloud-based copy of all of your SP stuff.
2) Your laptop was wiped, but because Steam Cloud was turned on, the game pulled the save data from there, so all your crafts and everything were still accessible, just stored in the cloud instead of locally. (Dunno if this is exactly how it works, but probably close enough.)
3) For some reason, the Steam Cloud data was wiped or reset this morning. There's probably a bunch of ways that this could have happened, but I don't know what they are or what specifically might have happened in your case.
4) Because Steam Cloud was still turned on, it created a new backup of all of the SP data that was on your laptop at 11:23 AM. Unfortunately, because your laptop had been wiped, the only things on it were what you had saved post-wipe, so that's all the data that it found.
5) You opened the game, suspecting nothing amiss, and were met with the horror of a nearly empty craft list.

Something is fishy indeed... Do you still have Steam Cloud data for other games? (If so, do their files share the same creation date?)

@HuskyDynamics01 I'm aware of the button. Not sure if it includes the original ("simple") versions, though.
All dates are October 29, 11:23 AM.
Something is fishy.

@Graingy Like I said, no idea why it took so long for it to do that (and that might not even be what happened, just my guess based on my own experiences with Steam Cloud in the past). The stock craft are saved in the same folder though, so no surprise that they're gone too. There's a button in the settings (accessible from the main menu, not from the flight scene) to restore them, I think, but unfortunately it's only for the stock craft.

Is the "date written" in the Steam Cloud viewer thing the same for all of the saves that it has? I wonder if it just cleared itself and refreshed for some reason. Dunno if that's even a thing it does, but I guess it's a possibility.

@HuskyDynamics01 That was a few weeks ago. Steam cloud held up over that, as it had the time before.
Additionally, even the stock craft are gone.