its literally 90% of every post at this point. Go to highest rated category and there's nothing but an ocean of fighters interrupted by the occasional island of an airliner. Go to hottest and it's a little more varied, usually with warships and tanks showing up as well, but the ratio of military to civillian vehicles is still like 8:1. The only civilian ground vehicles i see are cars, though they're rather uncommon. Finding any aircraft that isn't one of the 2 groups i listed above is a mythical occurrence, and good luck finding a watercraft that isn't a warship. Why is this community so unbelievably obsessed with military vehicles and almost nothing else? There's so much more to aviation than warfare.
does anyone else think there are FAR too many military vehicles on this site?
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@CaptainNoble Not talking about how I see you. But re-read all this, I never put any negative connotation on anything. Only you introduced it, bud. Just putting up a warning. Whoever reads this whole convo again will question your replies more. I did my part expressing my opinions as opinions. I'm serious about the warning part.
But fine, let's just cap this situation up and call it a day. GGs.
@Icey21 Holy airball, I couldn't care less about whatever "image" you think I'm portraying bruh. All I'm saying is you should always portray your opinions as opinons not facts. Anyways, I'm not spending any more time on this GGs ✌️
@CaptainNoble
A 737 from an A340 is pretty easy since they're.. somewhat different. Moreso for a 380 and 747.
Are those even supposed to be difficult bud? Cuz otherwise you're just starting to become one emotional wreck and waste of time.
Like I'm not even pissed anm. Genuinely asking did your younger brother our cousin or whatever get a hold of your acc? If they did ftr I have this in record to cover for you.
Because no matter what angle you look at this from, you're making a bad image for yourself.
@Icey21 If you can't distinguish a 737 from an A340 or an A380 from a 747, you need one XD
@CaptainNoble Same is subjective. It implies several levels of "same".
Congrats to you if you can distinguish them, bud. But as a good number of people in this comment section said they're fundamentally the same.
You should give me a lobotomy if I'm somehow unable to distinguish a 747 from a 380 lmao.
But for now, with your argument, I apologize, but you're not permitted to give me a lobotomy.
Astro12:: "This does not make civil aviation less interesting in itself, but for someone who does not delve into the details, it will be less noticeable."
@CaptainNoble Exactly this.
Call civilian aircraft boring or whatever you want. That doesn't make them bad. They have less features but that doesn't mean they're nothing. That's just that. Black and white.
I just happened to find myself more interested in military craft.
Plus, you're already in the "making it sound" part. I never said anything explicitly stating civilian craft are boring. I just said that they're more monotonous compared to fighters.
@CaptainNoble you sound pissed lol.
Firstly, tell that to the A320, A220, A340, A350, A321 NEO, B737, 767, etc., etc. I'm sure you get my point. Most modern designs are monotonous. They only change designs when their roles are significantly different, like international and regional. I never said that was a bad thing. I just said that they mostly looked the same.
You're the one who gave it negativity, lmao
Plus, relatively, yes. Compared to commercial airliners, I do think military craft are much more of an engineering marvel. Why do you ask? Shit man.. I guess it's because they were built to do more. That's a fact.
And yeah, I do think military aircraft are cooler. So what if I stated it like a fact? I wasn't pushing it, no? I just said that they're badass, and now that's.. bad.. somehow?
Give yourself a check before putting negative meanings to everything.
People have different opinions and feelings, I'm sure you can agree.
@Timplanes if only up to half of them flew right
@TheCommentaryGuy I can sort of see what they mean, but it’s not like there isn’t a reason why it is the way it is.
@CaptainNoble Seemed like it. Perhaps work on conveying tone better, seemed heated (which doesn’t reflect well on oneself).
@Timplanes If only…
Fighters are smol so they seem easier to build for a lot of people
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@Graingy wasn't mad tbh, was just getting slowly irritated, lol
and plus, jets are cool, dunno why you see that as a problem.
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@CaptainNoble You were getting a bit worked up. Calm down, ain't that important.
@Astro12 good for you, good for him, don't state personal opinions as facts and don't argue with confidence topics you know nothing about
@CaptainNoble
I do NOT consider civil aviation boring. I am speaking from the perspective of the average player on the site. He does not see the difference between a Boeing 737 and an Airbus A320. And if he does not see the difference, he gets bored and goes somewhere else.
@Astro12 The problem here is personal opinions being stated as fact, no matter how much logic or nuance you want to throw in, it's very obvious the original comment makes it sound like commercial aviation is somehow inherently less interesting or less marvelous/genius than military aviation, which is simply not true. The very fact you say the engineering marvel in civil aviation is "saving 1% more fuel" shows your lack of knowledge, sure civil aviation might not have as many breakthroughs or innovations as military aviation but reduicng it to "We saved 1% fuel" is stupid to say the least, look at the 787, comet, concorde brought much more marvel than saving 1% more fuel and we are beggining to see more and more of that in the near future, fuel efficiency is something that's prioritised in every aspect of aviation, military or civil, it's simply dumb to make it sound the way you do.
And I will say it again, YOU find civil aviation boring YOU find military aviation more intriguing, for me, I find both interesting, for others, it may be the other way round, some do not take interest in either and see them both as "boring". To take your personal opinion and make it the rule of thumb, no matter how many people you think share your opinion simply because "Everyone should like fast flying stuff duh?!?!", is quite frankly very ignorant and possibly pretty stupid. Some people love the speed, agility, flashiness of fighter jets while others love the Size, elegance and gentle beauty of an airliner taxi-ing to the runway at sunset, some love both, your brain is not the world's compass
@CaptainNoble
The nuance here is that the “engineering marvel” in a fighter jet is clearly visible: it starts to fly faster, maneuver better, carry more missiles, and so on. The “engineering marvel” in civil aviation usually means “Now we save 1% more fuel.” Military and civil aviation have different areas of improvement. Military aviation seeks to push the boundaries of what is possible, while civil aviation seeks optimization for greater efficiency.
This does not make civil aviation less interesting in itself, but for someone who does not delve into the details, it will be less noticeable.
@Graingy
Well, yes, only train enthusiasts see differences in them beyond shape and color.
@Icey21 "All mostly look the same" I guess an ATR 42 or dehavilland comet looks the same as a 737 or A380, most Airliners do infact not look the same. Anything can be boring when you don't have an interest in it, "cool" doesn't just mean flying fast and pulling Gs, you talk like commercial aircraft aren't also engineering marvels
Also, practice not stating your opinions as fact, surprise surprise airliners look way more visually appealing to me than fighters, I wonder why, maybe because people have different opinions and feelings !?!?! 😮😮
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@CaptainNoble
I was exaggerating. Of course, higher education is not necessary, but if a person has not studied the subject specifically, they will not see the differences between most aircraft.
@Astro12 You don't need to be a specialist to tell apart civil aircraft, anyone who's had the interest for even a few months can become good at doing that.
Simply speaking, combat vehicles are the absolute pinnacle of aerospace engineering. They're designed to reach and break the limits of their predecessors and very often have very varied, interesting designs, which is in stark contrast to commercial aircraft like airliners, which all mostly look the same and are monotonous.
Plus, military crafts have many more roles than commercial crafts, look much more visually appealing (as I've mentioned), have much more kick, and let's be honest here, much more badass.
Sort of like sports cars to city buses.