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You may or may not have noticed I am not active anymore.

7,397 FeiWu  3.4 years ago

That's right. I am trying to distance myself from this toxic community. Expect no more builds for the rest of this year. Sorry. If your entry to the Amphibian Challenge has not been graded yet, note that your evaluation will come. If I get banned, it will be because I am reported for point farming. As I really don't have much time and motivation to contribute to the community, I will not grade any entries or hand out upvotes in the near future, and so deal with it and complain if you want. I will return when I think people will not be so toxic when my name and/or my challenges are mentioned. I did enjoy hosting monthly challenges, but only because people enjoyed it and paid attention in a positive way. For obvious reasons, they will not be coming back any time soon. Be sure to voice your suggestions about how I should host challenges as the happy times come back.

- FeiWu

P.S. The comment section below is the exact reason for why this is happening.
P.P.S. I have not violated any rules. Even the builders of the planes I feature upvote my challenges. I will not apologize. Be it.
P.P.P.S. If you live in the US, compare this to Fox News picking on every single thing about liberal politicians and every one of their statements.. This is like the emails. Complaining about things that aren't even problems to make people look bad.
P.P.P.P.S. WiiMini has told me that I get too many points from challenges. While I do appreciate the successor points, the main priority for those is to see what the community has to offer. Because the better users out there are all involved (in some way) in either boycotting all challenges or creating hell (also known as the comment section below), I am not even close to my goal. I have tried, time and time again, to make challenges better. I amend the rules based on your feedback. My rules are only strict because I strive to ensure realism in SP builds.

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    7,397 FeiWu

    bruh
    yeah. basically people are picking on my word choice now.

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    41.8k Ren

    Don't mind the casual warzone below...

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    @QuitePossiblyMangled but that is the thing, I backed out like 5 days ago because I saw what would happen if I'd stayed and fought. I honestly got lazy because I knew my opinion was right, but there's no point in trying to convince people. So I let the dumpster fire burn. I can have different views, but I saw the conflict was about to turn into a fight. I don't even have a call to duty to even involve myself in the first place. I dropped some advice, and gave reasons, and left. What more must there be to it? I'll let @FeiWu make his edits about a fellow Californian, but I honestly don't care. Nothing is pushing me to save FeiWu. The only reason I went into battle with KoR was because it was wrong what happened to him, and on a larger scale. I'd known KnightOfRen a while before, hence why i'd decided to get into war. I think it's awesome that soon after the conflict ended, but truth be told, nothing makes me want to defend or attack FeiWu. It is a warzone, and I have a tendency to make it a bigger one. Hence why I stepped back. Not a lot of people even know and hate FeiWu. I think they can handle the controversy. It's quite rash to accuse me of being a coward without me defending myself.

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    @WiiWiiTheMini Its quite cowardly that you join something and leave before it's finished. Friends can have differentiating opinions, views, and thoughts. Finally, you can't back out of something after joining it, as you have become apart of the conversation.

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    @QuitePossiblyMangled
    are we chill? I just said I dont wanna fight, and I already forgot about this drama. is that ok with you?

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    @QuitePossiblyMangled
    "you know what, I'm not gonna fight you. It's not my place to fight anymore. I've shown you the way, but you don't want to do it. I'm just gonna remain silent on this matter, as to not ruin our friendship. I'm just gonna exit this drama and hope for the best, whichever way you and FeiWu choose."

    i already exited it man, im not gonna argue anymore. k? I just wanna keep you and everyone else as my friends and not ruin things. I hardly use these titles, only once, as a joke did I use it. Besides that, not really. people can upvote what they want. They chose to upvote a meme build, thanking everybody. lets not fight this mess. i already left, and I only posted the post about 4 days after I left, meaning I didn't support my argument anymore. I just wanna exit this because it ain't my business to fight it

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    Let people build what they want and get over it. Who are you to say that when your builds use clickbait titles such as push to 10k or push to 20k. He can make how many challenges as he wants @WiiWiiTheMini

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    41.5k rexzion

    @FeiWu wut ok

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    7,397 FeiWu

    @rexrexThezion
    1. You know about me (prev. known as APilotOfPlanes)
    2. This community is toxic, at least to me. You don’t feel it.

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    41.5k rexzion

    honestly looks like you guys are making feiwu think like this community is actually toxic.
    it really isn't but if you keep getting involved in stupid drama like this it does feel that way, this community does have some sort of silly drama going on, and I mean you can just block people, or ignore the drama completely

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    41.5k rexzion

    calm down in the comments wow I don't even know who this man is

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    Oh yes more material to read

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    7,397 FeiWu

    @KnightOfRen

    Moderators have very strict rules against it, and ED has seen FeiWu's challenges. If he was point farming, the challenges would be taken down.

    ED has also said that if entries are not graded and prizes not handed out within two weeks of the entry deadline, the host will be ban-worthy if someone reports the challenge.

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    @KnightOfRen, to be fair, I don't hate FeiWu or treat him like rex, but I'm done arguing

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    @KnightOfRen, you know what, I'm not gonna fight you. It's not my place to fight anymore. I've shown you the way, but you don't want to do it. I'm just gonna remain silent on this matter, as to not ruin our friendship. I'm just gonna exit this drama and hope for the best, whichever way you and FeiWu choose.

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    41.8k Ren

    @WiiMini
    I should also point out that you're acting like he's rexzion, which is the opposite of true.
    On a lighter note, here's a joke
    FeiWu was not the imposter.
    1 imposter remains

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    @WiiMini
    Ok, it looks like I have plenty to unpack here. I'll start here.
    I am doing this to defend FeiWu, who is not doing anything wrong. Again, read my last points. I don't feel like repeating myself. I'll just quote myself instead.

    With the using others planes, FeiWu is a VERY high level builder, especially in four months. So, who would spend a very long time creating a very high quality aircraft that he may not be interested in even building JUST for a challenge? Nobody!

    "Undiplomatic"

    Who was undiplomatic? F104, of course.
    Please read these three things, F104 is picking on less experienced players.
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    I'd like to remain friends with you, but FeiWu is being treated unfairly, and it needs to stop. Its the KoR thing again. Your "path to peace" is just....doesn't seem right. Again, FeiWu hosts frequent challenges, and thats fine IMO. So what is he apologizing for? Existence?

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    @KnightOfRen, you missed my point. He's made too many challenges for the community to be annoyed, but not enough to be serious point farming. What is fighting with me going to do for you? What is fighting me and the community and the neutrals going to accomplish? What do you even want? I'm not even sure what you want. I've already showed you the path to peace is simple and easy. It's just too much and annoying the community. You make fuselage art for your competitions, so don't take other people's stuff and not make it a successor. On top of that, the undiplomatic attitude of @FeiWu against F104Deathtrap's proper argument is also deserving of an apology. The things he's done is annoying the community. This post is annoying me a bit as well. Just calling the community toxic and leaving it that way is just being a coward and starting trouble. So answer me this: What are you arguing for? Why are you here to argue everyone who even suggests that FeiWu is in the wrong? I'm here trying to talk to you about making peace, by ending this. So what's your reason for arguing? Why?

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    @WiiMini
    FeiWu is a good person, and does not farm points. He probably just wants to see what cool things people can build! People have been unjustifiably toxic to him, and if anyone needs to stop, its the toxic people on the other side who are giving him hate for making frequent challenges. Frequent challenges are fine, I make challenges just as much and there's no problem, which is kinda sus. People hate him, but I do plenty of fun challenges too and no one cares that i do.

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    @WiiMini
    Its. Not. Point. Farming.
    Moderators have very strict rules against it, and ED has seen FeiWu's challenges. If he was point farming, the challenges would be taken down. So what does your point prove?
    With the using others planes, FeiWu is a VERY high level builder, especially in four months. So, who would spend a very long time creating a very high quality aircraft that he may not be interested in even building JUST for a challenge? Nobody!

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    @KnightOfRen continued:

    if you continue this war, this is going to be your drama again, but more big. This is already smoking like a fire. Put down the flamethrower, and get a hose. This is not looking well. This will explode into full out conflict. I know both of you can end this mess. @FeiWu, just please trust me here and follow the instructions I leave here. KnightOfRen, this should end the drama, because my gigantic post on your drama alerted the mods entirely, and ended your drama. Don't be hawkish. Just be wise people and end this mess, highlight the forum post, and within a week, everyone's forgotten about it.

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    @KnightOfRen, It is time for the evidence:

    FeiWu has been active on this account for about 4 months, and it's nice to be at gold in 4 months. In that time span he has created 4 challenges, which is quite plenty, considering at that rate, most platinums would make competitions. It becomes more acceptable in SP to make more challenges farther up. Constantly creating challenges is annoying and tacky because most challenges blow up to 25 upvotes. So, when FeiWu started making way too many challenges, people like me started being annoyed. So when FeiWu asked for my opinion, I told him to stop competitions, and the strict rules were annoying. FeiWu was requiring FT, something I know not a lot of people can actually do, including myself. On top of that, he was using other peoples' planes as thumbnails in order to advertise the challenges better, which is frowned upon, because you use something flashy that's not yours to make something of yours have more attention. Also interesting was that he stopped a competition in the middle of it happening, leading to some more anger and outrage towards him. He then makes a post saying that it's not fair that challenges are going down and that he wants opinions. When F104Deathtrap responds with logical arguements, he's argued back from FeiWu, and then later ignored, when he said to FeiWu that you can keep turning your head, but your neck will get tired, and that still rings true. On top of this, he makes this post, calling the entire community toxic, which is just insulting the entire community, and bringing even more toxicity in here. So all of that warrants a quite sincere apology for his hypocritical actions. I personally am not on the attack, nor do I hate FeiWu or you @KnightOfRen. You are my friend, and I want to support you, but this is a battle I think does not need to be fought, but instead ended. FeiWu's done a lot of things frowned upon in SP, so of course the people are mad, and he isn't making it better, he's just declaring war and running from it, which means he is leaving the community, making it more toxic. If he's banned, I think that it isn't deserved, because it isn't serious point farming, but it is point farming. @FeiWu, you should come out with an apology for your actions, and delete this forum post. If you can do that, you can enjoy SP again. KnightOfRen, I think you're a good and nice dude, but we don't need all out war when the solution is right here. I'm going to be disappointed in you both i

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    @WiiMini
    He has nothing to be sorry for.

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    @KnightOfRen, I was wrong though, when I said fight fire with fire, because we all get burned. I’m just saying it’s easy to apologize and end this mess. Just make a forum post to apologize, and it’s over. Just two words, I’m sorry. Isn’t that easy enough? I don’t want to fight you either. I’m just saying end it with two words. Simple as that. What makes you not want FeiWu to say sorry. Those words will end this mess. I also said we need peace and apologies as well. We should just end it, and then all drama is over. I will remain somewhat neutral, but what do you want for FeiWu? Just make it easy for both of you with an apology.

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    @WiiMini
    Dude....chill
    This is NOT point farming. If it was, the mods would have done something. Its not too many, imo. I don't want to fight you, but as you said, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

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