on way i improved that was by inverting the front wing you should always invert the front stabilizer and i would recomond seeing if you can increase the pitch surface
You can make the prop stronger with the gear icon that shows up when you click it and i would try to add 3 fuseloges on the rear to make it longer as of now it is too short.
@MrNarwhal35 Only people care about thing that look like models of thing the amount of people having over 20 hours in this game with less than 2 acheivements is scary
@MrNarwhal35 You are making a lot of improvement the only way i could think of improvement would be increasing the space between the front and rear horizon stabilizer it aplies more force on the plane to turn it like how i do with my designs.
@MrNarwhal35 I always go screw the looks if you go on sandbox racing and put it on ocean speed way AI controll I dare you to find something that will beat it in a race that ablies to all my other jets just like it.
@MrNarwhal35 i am trying to reply because i always wanted someone to comment on my planes so i decided to be the change i wanted but if you want to look at a different take on things my planes are soem of the best perfomers on this site.
That is exceptionally good for a first plane way better than my first you did the control surfaces for a monowing perfectly with pitch close to the wing and roll far away from the center to spin as fast as possible with only the slightest tendency to fly up which can be fixed by making the front heavier by adding more fuel or more fusaloge space in the front but it is minor.
@TheOwlAce Okey i was able to access the plane and i noticed that the front had dead wieght which you should never have dead wieght when you can increase fuel and size which increases fuel so i added fuel to the rear of the plane and your props werent at axium blade length to not touch the ground so i made them 100 inches instead of 80 and gave it 6 scimitars and now it flys perfectly flat and maxes a t700 mph.
Some immediate improvements i made was remove the two extra middle wings and mahe the middle roll increased the surface area on back wing to max and made it pitch then copy back wing with right click and put it foward near cock pit and invert it you can tune its location this improves it alot but it is still relitively bad it would be a lot better if the body was all one long slender fussaloge like my jets all of them really your jet has tyo many different planes with wings on them and it is unessary. also add two intakes one normal intake can feed 2 of your engines so you need 4 in total 2 per a side they can go on the front intakes feed your jets more air so they burn hotter and push more force so faster,
The only thing i could thing that would be a quick fix would be it leaning down in flight that means the front is too heavy and can be fixed by moving bombs and fuel around, one improvement that would be super helpful would be inverted horizontal wings in the front but it would require a lot of moving around to do that. good job integreating those 50 lb bombs.
It would be best if on the wing nearest to the cockpit you invert all the pitch and remove all the pitch on the middle wing and have the whole of it be roll and you can remove 4 slim intakes and it still has the same burn speed intakes only get it to have good burn the only ways an engine can burn is not enough air and enough, after you have enough adding more only increase your drag and the balancing issue can be fix by putting fussilages on one end of the plane and take your time biulding and testing you can only post 2 planes a day and it takes like 1 hour or more to build a good plane.
@TheOwlAce that is deffinatly a possiblity if you were able to work out an inverted horizontal stabilizer on the front it would turn even faster or you can scrap the whole thing and biuld a long and slender jet with moddified fuel and 120 engines like the Attack Jet i built, i think you pushed that size to its limit. Working those horizontal stabilzers on would be a pain.
@Seelion The horizontal stabilizer in the front should be inverted and in my opion the jet is to small to be a top performer when i make them i go Long and slender as seen in the jets i make my first jets had the same problems as yours.
@TheOwlAce I am always impressed to see a jet that can complete ocean speedway abou tall of mine can coplete that track but 95% of the highest rated planes crash even the high performance jets, glad to see some creator who strives for practicality.
This is an excellent Jet one of the few in the game that can complete Ocean speed way a good test for jets to see about mobility. Typically whenever i make jets i try to go bigger and use 120 engines for more weapon capacity but for the size this is excellent very impressive.
@Supercraft888 Oh god the planes i made when i first got the game were terrible i had to expirement for 24 on designs to make my weaselzone jet fighter hopefully looking at my current success will save you sometime. My recommendation would be try out everything that is how i found out about having 4 horizontal stabilizers with the ones infront inteverted to give me tight turns.
@GoldenHawk https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/J4jWe1/Attack-Jet my entry
This won't even be hard but could you elaberate on the challenge?
My entry is my Attack Jet it is already uploaded
When i enter my plane does it have to be a succesor to the challenge becuase i already have a plane that will work.
glad to that you did a full redesign of the control surfaces
@PseudoSudo If it dips up then the front is too light so you may want to enlongate the front.
on way i improved that was by inverting the front wing you should always invert the front stabilizer and i would recomond seeing if you can increase the pitch surface
Invert the pitch on the wings closest to the cockpit your turning ability will be increased greatly.
You can make the prop stronger with the gear icon that shows up when you click it and i would try to add 3 fuseloges on the rear to make it longer as of now it is too short.
@TheOwlAce yeah that is obvious from the list of planes you made
@Rohan all it is, is agun nothing more nothing less
@MrNarwhal35 good point see you
@MrNarwhal35 Only people care about thing that look like models of thing the amount of people having over 20 hours in this game with less than 2 acheivements is scary
@MrNarwhal35 You are making a lot of improvement the only way i could think of improvement would be increasing the space between the front and rear horizon stabilizer it aplies more force on the plane to turn it like how i do with my designs.
@MrNarwhal35 two bad only 2 people got to experience this.
@MrNarwhal35 After all looking pretty as you crash into the side of a mountain is the same as looking ugly.
This is a far way from your silver back great job can't find any glaring issues with the design.
Inveter the pitch in the front makes it tons better.
I could see this be a phesable sam evasion plane this has the ability to swop through valleys and canyons
@xXATHERIALXx Thanks for the up votes you really are helpful :)
@xXATHERIALXx you are welcome
Why do i feel betrayed it was so obvious
@TheCaptain594 Thanks for the upvotes
Glad to see you getting better at building planes
@MrNarwhal35 I always go screw the looks if you go on sandbox racing and put it on ocean speed way AI controll I dare you to find something that will beat it in a race that ablies to all my other jets just like it.
@TheCaptain594 How did you even complete challenges?!
@TheCaptain594 Before fussalog, god have mercy
@TheCaptain594 I am sure but hey maybe some of the tips may ably to your coolthings.
@EasyFly When it comes to jet i can definatly give you some good popinters
@MrNarwhal35 All of them except the bomber can complete ocean speedway that is a good way to test your planes
how does it controll?
I have NEVER seen someone put gatlingguns facing up down left and right.
i would try to make it longer and put inverted horizontal stabilizers on the front
@TheOwlAce i found it
@MrNarwhal35 i am trying to reply because i always wanted someone to comment on my planes so i decided to be the change i wanted but if you want to look at a different take on things my planes are soem of the best perfomers on this site.
That is exceptionally good for a first plane way better than my first you did the control surfaces for a monowing perfectly with pitch close to the wing and roll far away from the center to spin as fast as possible with only the slightest tendency to fly up which can be fixed by making the front heavier by adding more fuel or more fusaloge space in the front but it is minor.
Constructive critism you wait.
@TheOwlAce Okey i was able to access the plane and i noticed that the front had dead wieght which you should never have dead wieght when you can increase fuel and size which increases fuel so i added fuel to the rear of the plane and your props werent at axium blade length to not touch the ground so i made them 100 inches instead of 80 and gave it 6 scimitars and now it flys perfectly flat and maxes a t700 mph.
@TheOwlAce I am having trouble getting that link to work.
that is hard but to hell with it i will give it a try
Some immediate improvements i made was remove the two extra middle wings and mahe the middle roll increased the surface area on back wing to max and made it pitch then copy back wing with right click and put it foward near cock pit and invert it you can tune its location this improves it alot but it is still relitively bad it would be a lot better if the body was all one long slender fussaloge like my jets all of them really your jet has tyo many different planes with wings on them and it is unessary. also add two intakes one normal intake can feed 2 of your engines so you need 4 in total 2 per a side they can go on the front intakes feed your jets more air so they burn hotter and push more force so faster,
@TheOwlAce good luck working in those horizon stabilizers you'll need it.
The only thing i could thing that would be a quick fix would be it leaning down in flight that means the front is too heavy and can be fixed by moving bombs and fuel around, one improvement that would be super helpful would be inverted horizontal wings in the front but it would require a lot of moving around to do that. good job integreating those 50 lb bombs.
My ultuimate racer has no guns and it is still a good example i will try to download some gun free versions in the future.
It would be best if on the wing nearest to the cockpit you invert all the pitch and remove all the pitch on the middle wing and have the whole of it be roll and you can remove 4 slim intakes and it still has the same burn speed intakes only get it to have good burn the only ways an engine can burn is not enough air and enough, after you have enough adding more only increase your drag and the balancing issue can be fix by putting fussilages on one end of the plane and take your time biulding and testing you can only post 2 planes a day and it takes like 1 hour or more to build a good plane.
@TheOwlAce that is deffinatly a possiblity if you were able to work out an inverted horizontal stabilizer on the front it would turn even faster or you can scrap the whole thing and biuld a long and slender jet with moddified fuel and 120 engines like the Attack Jet i built, i think you pushed that size to its limit. Working those horizontal stabilzers on would be a pain.
@Seelion The horizontal stabilizer in the front should be inverted and in my opion the jet is to small to be a top performer when i make them i go Long and slender as seen in the jets i make my first jets had the same problems as yours.
@TheOwlAce I am always impressed to see a jet that can complete ocean speedway abou tall of mine can coplete that track but 95% of the highest rated planes crash even the high performance jets, glad to see some creator who strives for practicality.
This is an excellent Jet one of the few in the game that can complete Ocean speed way a good test for jets to see about mobility. Typically whenever i make jets i try to go bigger and use 120 engines for more weapon capacity but for the size this is excellent very impressive.
@Supercraft888 Oh god the planes i made when i first got the game were terrible i had to expirement for 24 on designs to make my weaselzone jet fighter hopefully looking at my current success will save you sometime. My recommendation would be try out everything that is how i found out about having 4 horizontal stabilizers with the ones infront inteverted to give me tight turns.