Aye aye @DeidaraEnterprises, @Nerfenthusiast, I've gotta rebuke that and say orbital and space weapons are a big no.
Not only is it significantly unfair for a majority of nations considering some are barely into 4th gen fighters, but it would also contribute to the creations of weapons to counter such space weapons, thus contributing to Kessler Syndrome.
Last thing we want is someone screwing up all of humanity's progress cause of a petty Proxy war.
I've made an attempt using 8 engines, but without modding them they don't provide enough power.
Plus, XMLing engines so far from the CoM makes it pitch upwards.
@Adityo0502
Fun fact; reading the first line of one of the ammendments doesn't mean you know everything about the treaty.
If you read a bit more, you would of learned of the virtually unlimited cap on reserve troops and paramilitary that any nation could have during peacetime and wartime, and the wartime cap would be removed inna case of Total War.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
Considering what I read off to them was the finalized version of the treay, and not this version, I have a feeling they haven't been reading what I've been writing...
@Bman01
To notify, this is the first "informal" itteration of the Treaty. A more finalized version will be written at a later date with input from a variety of parties.
Until them, I'll add everyone to the signing.
@DeidaraEnterprises @HarrisCraft @JamesBleriot
Much like in Fallout with their FEV, it didn't start out as a weapon.
Just anything relating to genetic modification or chemical altering of the human body should be banned come finalized Königsberg.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
The creation of a UN-like organization is also mention in the forum, and will be created after the Königsberg Treaty is signed and finalized.
And once the Geneva Convention is updated, records will be compiled from the SP cite so countries who've committed crimes against the well being of citizens and surrendered soldiers will recieve just punishment.
@NirvashTec
The whole idea of putting anything in space that isn't a satellite in this RP is something that'll be tackled with the finalized Königsberg Treaty, and in the updated Geneva Convention.
For the most part, anything that isn't a satellite I'm gonna push for being banned for the reasons you've stated, but also because it costs absurd amounts of money, requires large infrastructure some countries don't have, and global cooperation to accomplish.
@NirvashTec
Typically superpowers test their weapons via some sorta tower they could drop the ordinance from, a bomber, or more recently an ICBM inside their own territory.
And well, that suff is well documented, so they wouldn't mistake their own nuke for anothers, or something.
Geez I'm tired...
@exosuit
While yes, Strikefighter is the one who started SLRP and the RP mod position, he didn't put out any sort of criteria for who he chose to the position.
Now while it would be especially difficult for one of the 4 RP mods to abuse this power in a group of probably a little around 2 dozen, being an active meber in the RP would definetly help the RP mods guide decisions.
If boiled down enough, it's like asking the SP devs to find some random group of guys to moderate SP while never having heard of the game or site.
@Lahoski107
I must disagree with that statement.
Not because I'm a moderator, no, but because there's really no way a mod can make themself more powerful without other moderators noticing and calling them out.
Not to mention Strikefighter04 himself is an RP mod, I'd assume you'd want him to relinquish control over Simplelandia, right?
@Lahoski107
With mention that that, I feel an addition to the active army limitation amendment needs a clause limiting peacetime/wartime active soldiers to more reasonable amounts, but having no limit on near-military trained reserve personnel and paramilitary units.
@Bman01
I have a feeling nuclear artillery died back in the 50's with the Davy Crockett and similar equipment, mainly being horribly impractical for use.
@Bman01
Considering everything cited is still in the 21st century (and Bioshock has firmly remained in the 20th every installment), I don't feel the mentioned games accurately foretell the future of humanity.
Not to mention how every game has a major event in human history that has caused it to become as such; in Fallout, the transistors development was significantly delayed to about the 2050s.
2077, while I'm not too up-to-date on what puts it in its own reality, I assume something about hyper-realistic and human-like androids capable of slightly changing parts of them would be weel beyond technology of our 2077.
And Bioshock, well... everything stays in the underwater city of Rapture, with no mention of how the outside world was changed by those dang sea slugs.
400 million active soldiers seems like an absurd amount of troopa for a country, especially considering the current-day US has only 1.3 million active military members in all branches.
sush sush, or the Monarchs will see that too
But on a serious note, I'm quite aware that having wheels on a chassis revokes the vehicle's MBT privilege, but considering its large caliber rifle and respectable armor, it would be an insult not to call it such.
@ChiyomiAnzai
I'd be willing to offer[/sell] several of the older P.007a-50m or P.006a-30m APCs to supplement your Armored Vehicle Division, or possibly provide an advisor to help design a similar vehicle.
@HarryBen47
Aye aye @DeidaraEnterprises, @Nerfenthusiast, I've gotta rebuke that and say orbital and space weapons are a big no.
+2Not only is it significantly unfair for a majority of nations considering some are barely into 4th gen fighters, but it would also contribute to the creations of weapons to counter such space weapons, thus contributing to Kessler Syndrome.
Last thing we want is someone screwing up all of humanity's progress cause of a petty Proxy war.
Thank you!
@CRJ900Pilot
Thanks!
+1Yeah, I'll be sure to meddle a bit with engine configs later on.
@Adityo0502
Yeah, I've tried a bit, but it gets tedious a after a while.
@Adityo0502
I've made an attempt using 8 engines, but without modding them they don't provide enough power.
Plus, XMLing engines so far from the CoM makes it pitch upwards.
@Adityo0502
it's trying it's best, diets only do so much
+6@EternalDarkness
Its definetly something that'll go into the finalized Königsberg Treaty,
so I'll add your name to this. @QuantausAviation
Lovely, glad you still wish to stay with the Königsberg Treaty.
I'll be sure to add you again.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
Fun fact; reading the first line of one of the ammendments doesn't mean you know everything about the treaty.
If you read a bit more, you would of learned of the virtually unlimited cap on reserve troops and paramilitary that any nation could have during peacetime and wartime, and the wartime cap would be removed inna case of Total War.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
Just because two people revoked/reverse their signing doesn't mean the whole effing treaty failed.
+8@JamesBleriot
I'd be best just to not have a blockade to begin with.
@JamesBleriot
Um, what
Considering what I read off to them was the finalized version of the treay, and not this version, I have a feeling they haven't been reading what I've been writing...
@Bman01
Chill out, everyone. The last thing we need is another petty war that leads to nothing.
@JamesBleriot @HarrisCraft
Watch the profanity here, and don't be the guy that starts on war an a effin post about a peace treaty.
@HarrisCraft
To notify, this is the first "informal" itteration of the Treaty. A more finalized version will be written at a later date with input from a variety of parties.
Until them, I'll add everyone to the signing.
@DeidaraEnterprises @HarrisCraft @JamesBleriot
Much like in Fallout with their FEV, it didn't start out as a weapon.
Just anything relating to genetic modification or chemical altering of the human body should be banned come finalized Königsberg.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
The creation of a UN-like organization is also mention in the forum, and will be created after the Königsberg Treaty is signed and finalized.
And once the Geneva Convention is updated, records will be compiled from the SP cite so countries who've committed crimes against the well being of citizens and surrendered soldiers will recieve just punishment.
@NirvashTec
The whole idea of putting anything in space that isn't a satellite in this RP is something that'll be tackled with the finalized Königsberg Treaty, and in the updated Geneva Convention.
For the most part, anything that isn't a satellite I'm gonna push for being banned for the reasons you've stated, but also because it costs absurd amounts of money, requires large infrastructure some countries don't have, and global cooperation to accomplish.
@NirvashTec
Typically superpowers test their weapons via some sorta tower they could drop the ordinance from, a bomber, or more recently an ICBM inside their own territory.
And well, that suff is well documented, so they wouldn't mistake their own nuke for anothers, or something.
Geez I'm tired...
@exosuit
Yeah, I'm very aware. The same profile pics gave it away awhile ago.
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
Lovely! I'l be sure to add you there, and the name already makes me a tad cautious
@GeneralOliverVonBismarck
Don't worry, a weapons list will be added to the finalized version of the Königsberg Treaty.
@SuperSix
While yes, Strikefighter is the one who started SLRP and the RP mod position, he didn't put out any sort of criteria for who he chose to the position.
Now while it would be especially difficult for one of the 4 RP mods to abuse this power in a group of probably a little around 2 dozen, being an active meber in the RP would definetly help the RP mods guide decisions.
If boiled down enough, it's like asking the SP devs to find some random group of guys to moderate SP while never having heard of the game or site.
@Lahoski107
Right! Yes, don't wanna forget that too.
I'l be sure to include it in a finalized Königsberg Treaty.
@xGeneralFischx
I must disagree with that statement.
Not because I'm a moderator, no, but because there's really no way a mod can make themself more powerful without other moderators noticing and calling them out.
Not to mention Strikefighter04 himself is an RP mod, I'd assume you'd want him to relinquish control over Simplelandia, right?
@Lahoski107
I've had complaints in the past with such super weapons.
I'll make sure to have an amendment added to deal with such WMDs.
@Bman01
I'll add your signing and suggestion to the post, thank you for said suggestion.
@Trollium
@Lahoski107
Depends on the price offered, otherwise I'm curious.
+1Alright, don't hesitate to toss any ideas my way.
@Strikefighter04
@JamesBleriot
@Harriscraft
@LancasterAce
With mention that that, I feel an addition to the active army limitation amendment needs a clause limiting peacetime/wartime active soldiers to more reasonable amounts, but having no limit on near-military trained reserve personnel and paramilitary units.
+1@Bman01
I have a feeling nuclear artillery died back in the 50's with the Davy Crockett and similar equipment, mainly being horribly impractical for use.
@Bman01
No recommendations on clauses or amendments that should be added, aside from chemical and orbital weapons?
@Strikefighter04
Wait, @PositivePlanes, were you not just antagonizing Bleriot just an hour ago, something about "anti ICBM defenses"?
I completly agree with you, but for the moment I'm wanting to see what others have to say about the Treaty before adding to it.
@SuperSix
@Strikefighter04
@SuperSix
@DeidaraEnterprises
Hence why I'm going to get Strikefighter and the other RP mods involved, to have some semblence of added authority behind this.
@PositivePlanes
That can definitely be arranged. I'll be sure to advise the barge captain of the destination.
@TheFantasticTyphoon
Considering everything cited is still in the 21st century (and Bioshock has firmly remained in the 20th every installment), I don't feel the mentioned games accurately foretell the future of humanity.
Not to mention how every game has a major event in human history that has caused it to become as such; in Fallout, the transistors development was significantly delayed to about the 2050s.
2077, while I'm not too up-to-date on what puts it in its own reality, I assume something about hyper-realistic and human-like androids capable of slightly changing parts of them would be weel beyond technology of our 2077.
And Bioshock, well... everything stays in the underwater city of Rapture, with no mention of how the outside world was changed by those dang sea slugs.
Lovely! I'll be sure to send then via barge to wherever you'd like.
@TheFantasticTyphoon
400 million active soldiers seems like an absurd amount of troopa for a country, especially considering the current-day US has only 1.3 million active military members in all branches.
Hence why is recieved the MBT title, despite being a suped-up APC
@exosuit
Thanks!
@CRJ900Pilot
Technically, yes, maybe, but here in Ostpreußen it's an MBT.
Why? Probably the turret alone.
@ChiyomiAnzai
sush sush, or the Monarchs will see that too
But on a serious note, I'm quite aware that having wheels on a chassis revokes the vehicle's MBT privilege, but considering its large caliber rifle and respectable armor, it would be an insult not to call it such.
@ChiyomiAnzai
I'd be willing to offer[/sell] several of the older P.007a-50m or P.006a-30m APCs to supplement your Armored Vehicle Division, or possibly provide an advisor to help design a similar vehicle.
@HarryBen47
wonder if I could mount a 150mm to an APC, then slap an "MBT" sticker to it
@SuperSix
Save for any tanks that mount 150mm guns, its one of the largest planned to be fielded on an MBT.
@SuperSix