@Hedero LOL

Sure why not @TheDesignate

Piper = Paper

@Hedero yup!

Hmm, so from what I gathered, you like tri-pacers lol. @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero no problem!
(Tri pacers are the superior airplane!)

Hmm ok. Sounds like a solid bird. I guess fabric isn't that bad. I'm just used to the aluminum skin cherokees and other birds of that sort. But fabric doesn't sound bad at all. Hey, if I ever want to buy a plane or if my dad wants to get one, I'll tell him about the tri pacer. Although he might have different things in mind. But thanks for all the info, very helpful! @MrSilverWolf

I only have a few negatives with the tri pacers, but every plane has these so to be expected
High sink rate when power is reduced
Narrow gear, not that bad, just take turns on the ground slowly and that solves that
Lack of checklist and a not so clear POH, fixable by making your own checklist, and the Short wing piper club is a great place to go for info so solves that POH thing
And, that’s about it really I only have great things to say about tri pacers

@Hedero yeah they did make them with aluminum skin but they didn’t do it quite right as a result it corrodes easier and not to mention made the plane to heavy, you’ll want the fabric one, and again it’s not a negative on these guys, it’s actually a plus in my book, as it’s lighter, easier to move around in a hanger

So they don't make aluminum skinned ones? That seems like it would improve structural integrity. Although I suppose aluminum would be heavier. @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero yup! Full electric system, no hand prop required, however the starter is in a bizarre place, but hey, at it has one, also I’d recommend looking into the 150hp ones up (preferably the 160 depending where you are)
Now big things with them about owning, it’s fabric, which means you may need to replace it eventually, but if you find one that’s been taken care of and hangered, it should last you a very long time, mine was re fabricated in I think 74, and it’s fooling people into thinking it’s new fabric with how it was taken care of
Also on hangering, it’s a must in tri pacers as it’s fabric
Other than that I can’t think of anything that would get ya on owing one
It really is a wonderful airplane, flies absolutely beautifully, very very stable, great for time building but has great performance, if you find one with the mo gas STC, you can run them on car gas which is a huge plus
I have tons of great things to say about the tri pacer

Hmm thats interesting, I actually really like the tri-pacer. I think it's adorable and looks like fun to fly. But yeah it's interesting to hear that it wouldn't be much worse then a 150. I'll have to tell my dad about this. Now I'm assuming the tri-pacers and colts have an ignition in the cockpit right? You don't have to hand start the prop? @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero actually the tri pacers, while they are light, don’t get kicked around as bad as one may imagine, and I think the 150 would be about the same imo, the only bad things with a tri pacer is that sink rate, they are honestly the best bang for the buck plane you can get, actually I think it’s cheaper than a 150 even for maintaining and operating
(It’s the cheapest plane to insure as well, $900 a year is like max you will see on it, also not saying the 150 is a bad choice, it too is a good airplane, I just think the Tri Pacers or colts are a better option)

Thanks! @DanDaFreakinMan

I don't think my dad would buy a tri pacer or a colt. I think if he did buy something for us to train in, it would be a C150 because it would feel more like a plane. The tri pacer is so small and light I think it would be kicked around even easier then a 150. Not sure though. @MrSilverWolf

It's Piper logo! ... Not sure what else I was expecting. Nice job man

@Hedero also the Colt would be worth looking into as well, it’s just a sawed in half tri pacer

Yeah I could tell my dad about that. I'm sure he either thought about it or would consider it. Thanks! @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero what might be worth doing is going to barnstormers and putting out an ad saying “Tri Pacer wanted” and wait to see if anyone calls you about one, we did that and it was not but 5 days and we had 2 people call us with tri pacers

I think that helps with price too as they may just see that ad and not noticed the price increase on others, mine was 25k which was 20k less than all the others (which were all project planes btw) so you never know
(Also doesn’t have to be a tri pacer, just using it as a example, though I would recommend it over a Cessna 150)

Very interesting. My dad wants to get a c150 for me and my younger brother to practice flying in before I get into flight training. But what he wants is a Piper arrow for personal use. However, the market is blazing hot right now because everyone keeps paid for sitting at home lol. And we're not particularly rich so we're gonna wait for prices to simmer down before getting anything. @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero it’s a great bird too, cheap as far as airplanes go, great performance, but high sink rate and while it has tricycle gear, one must be careful with its top heaviness

Ooo tri pacers are pretty cute! Yeah I think if I had a small bird like that to have fun in I'd do the tri-pacer as well, mainly because of the tricycle gear. @MrSilverWolf

@Hedero Cherokees are nice, I own a Tri Pacer, which has made my bias to Piper now

@Hedero Fair

Haha sadly no, I'm sort of tired of building modern ga aircraft as their cabins pose some issues with building. @KnightOfRen