I don't get the point of requesting that people don't do something that's been a part of the SP site since the beginning because of some arbitrary personal criteria, which really just seems ridiculous in every way I think of it.
There's a surpising amount of people in a part of the SP community who don't hang around the site, more specifically on Discord, who feel that if things are to a painful amount of hyper-realistic detail, then what you've created is absolute trash and shouldn't even exist. I'd guess it would be ironic to say most of their own "superior" creations tend to fall either into the trappings of fictional designs they usually call out, or are just shameless copies of real equipment that just one way or another performs worse than what they copied.
Just an example, I was asked on Discord what type of ceramic I used for one of my vehicle's armor, I'm not even kidding with that...
Not hate towards the busy devs or the question in general, but it took something like a year just for them to increase the maximum size of fuselage blocks from 5 to 10, doubt they'd get around for something like tweaking the engines in a decent time, especially now.
What's with all the mods being in SPMC?
Like, I get its a place everyone knows each other already and know what to expect and blah blah, but kinda feel it might cause an echo chamber, like what happened with Official Discord Staff.
I'll put my 5 cents in on this;
I was around well before mods were something widespread on SP, just in general. For about a year into the game from starting, I hadn't used mods, and it was alright, I guess, because nobody had them or knew enough to modify parts to how they are now.
As soon as Fine Tuner was released on Android, it made nudging parts around significantly easier, and thus the quality of my builds increased.
Saying that Androud users, such as myself, would be somehow better off without them, when I wouldn't be able to keep up the same quality my followers would be accustomed to, is such a loaded thing to say.
I remember having to dig through my phone files every time I wanted to mess with XML values. I had to use 3rd party apps just to edit them, close out SP, re-open, and if it wasn't how I liked...
Having the option of Fine Tiner and Overload just makes playing significantly easier, and while the game does have its own fine tuner-like system, its inferior to whats available already.
Theres a bit more I'd like to add to this, but I've mot got too much time right thus minute.
How somethimg that takes the appearance of very little work recieves so many upvotes and spotlights, things I've considered almost my entire time here as gestures of recognition from people that you made something they like and they appreciate your work, when some of your best stuff gets absolutely nothing, it's genuinely a disgrace.
I may not agree with everything said in the forum, but the sentiment of "upvote for meme value" on something that isn't even a meme is just bad.
Would definitely love to have this fixed, been having to deal with it since I first began playing, and it's genuinely the worst bug in SP's designer imo.
I've got a feeling WW1 would of been inevitable. Even if it didn't happen exactly when it did, it was bound to happen a year earlier or later. Though, WW2 is something up to contention, since it was explicitly the outcome of WW1.
I gotta say, for what SledDriver prides himself on ("First, and so far the the only player to successfully build a wide variety of generatedshapes using scripts." and had something thats now been removed about creating a "sideways building technique"), he really isn't the first at doing anything he claims.
There's a user by the name of JDM who was scripting vehicles over a year before he had even joined, and I was building flying wings with this "sideways building technique" before he even got into scripting his builds.
Wasn't CptJacobson banned from SP a few months back for actively stealing large chunks of peoples builds, just to pass them off as his own? not to mention, and this can be subjective, but me and a lot of others from my former SLRP find him a pretty bad RP'er
I'd put money on Halcyon for the sole reason the country has absurd amounts of equipment you'd expect from 10 years in the future (which I guess is expected from the RP since everyone likes to throw around "2030" and "2045" and etc in posts), yet has WMDs you'd expect from 100 years in the future with literally no explanation how, or any sort of infrastructure to even remotely support such a super weapon.
Not to mention they apparently have the most advanced transport, landing craft, and resource management systems because they can just manage to land massive armies on small hostile islands with no repercussions to supply, infrastructure, moral, or loss of allied life.
Though, CRV does have a really nice and well put together emblem/flag.
I found this quite a wonderful plane, it flew amazingly well and turned like nothing else.
The weapons too were pretty fun to use, petting me able to sink the USS Tiny while turning around to attack the Wright Convoy.
The only complaints I have over this aircraft is maybe seeing about moving the primary wing back a little bit so CoM wasn't right on top of CoL, which I think would help with difficulties I had taking off.
Its that, and maybe the cockpit should be a bit taller, but aside from those minor gripes, its a well made and detailed aircraft. I especially enjoyed the cockpit view.
cough cough the only thing not to scale would like be the dummy, the thing you said why "this is one massive vehicle"
So yeah, I'm pretty tired of hearing people from IDA just coming up and acting all superior with vehicles that can't drive straight in some cases, don't build in scale just to complain to others about scale, and cough cough uncalled for insults and threats
@KerlonceauxIndustries
Ah, yes, defaulting to the "not to scale" excuse, y'know, the one that might as well be "just because"?
.
Edit: isn't it also ironic for you to claim my to-scale Psuedo-MBT is giant, just for when the same claim is made your way just for you to say "it's not to scale"?
@KerlonceauxIndustries
I've stated this in another post on the same subject, its just theres a few people who absolutely refuse to use Discord (for various reasons I don't believe), and I'm pretty close to announcing SLRP move to Discord and anyone who can't will be left behind.
Yeah, I guess I can send some support your way.
I've got a cargo ship mostly filled with my expeditionary force in the Pacific that I can redirect to your islands.
That, and a ballistic missile submarine.
I've come under the impression that he either started something with someone he really shouldn't of, or he took a step back and took a look at the crap he started in the past. and it's pretty easy to realistically assume either happened
Personally find the idea of making replicas to be pretty boring. Don't really like making them, and the way most people do it now kinda just looks like a game of tracing blueprints with fuselage blocks.
Have made some replicas in the past, and they can be nice for sure when others add a good bit of quality, just personal opinion and stuff.
I don't get the point of requesting that people don't do something that's been a part of the SP site since the beginning because of some arbitrary personal criteria, which really just seems ridiculous in every way I think of it.
+27Not to mention all the planes in the pic are horribly outdated by todays SP standard...
+12There's a surpising amount of people in a part of the SP community who don't hang around the site, more specifically on Discord, who feel that if things are to a painful amount of hyper-realistic detail, then what you've created is absolute trash and shouldn't even exist. I'd guess it would be ironic to say most of their own "superior" creations tend to fall either into the trappings of fictional designs they usually call out, or are just shameless copies of real equipment that just one way or another performs worse than what they copied.
Just an example, I was asked on Discord what type of ceramic I used for one of my vehicle's armor, I'm not even kidding with that...
+11Just do
+9Not hate towards the busy devs or the question in general, but it took something like a year just for them to increase the maximum size of fuselage blocks from 5 to 10, doubt they'd get around for something like tweaking the engines in a decent time, especially now.
+8Just because two people revoked/reverse their signing doesn't mean the whole effing treaty failed.
+8@JamesBleriot
What's with all the mods being in SPMC?
+7Like, I get its a place everyone knows each other already and know what to expect and blah blah, but kinda feel it might cause an echo chamber, like what happened with Official Discord Staff.
I'm pretty much here with Aeromen, since CptJacobson had become very known to steal parts from people in the SLRP server after two users uploaded a whole host of evidence, and in some instances he did himself.
+7Overall, I know he had stolen a whole turret of a tank from Waemoth, then later inadvertently admitted to "taking inspiration" from Waemoth's turret despite it looking very obviously he had straight ripped it from Waemoth's tank.
Not to mention he has ripped an indeterminate amount of someone else's ship for his own that I believe hasn't been uploaded.
And overall, this one picture of a post he made on SP pretty much sums up his skills at running a country.
If the above links aren't showing my opinion on CptJacobson being a spotlight, then I'm not really sure what will...
Though, it's whoever's decision, being Jim1the1Squid's suggestion apparantly.
I'll put my 5 cents in on this;
I was around well before mods were something widespread on SP, just in general. For about a year into the game from starting, I hadn't used mods, and it was alright, I guess, because nobody had them or knew enough to modify parts to how they are now.
As soon as Fine Tuner was released on Android, it made nudging parts around significantly easier, and thus the quality of my builds increased.
Saying that Androud users, such as myself, would be somehow better off without them, when I wouldn't be able to keep up the same quality my followers would be accustomed to, is such a loaded thing to say.
I remember having to dig through my phone files every time I wanted to mess with XML values. I had to use 3rd party apps just to edit them, close out SP, re-open, and if it wasn't how I liked...
Having the option of Fine Tiner and Overload just makes playing significantly easier, and while the game does have its own fine tuner-like system, its inferior to whats available already.
+6Theres a bit more I'd like to add to this, but I've mot got too much time right thus minute.
it's trying it's best, diets only do so much
+6@EternalDarkness
Almost always depend on those when looking at stuff with custom thumbnails or custom designers.
+5Trees that got some groove
+5How somethimg that takes the appearance of very little work recieves so many upvotes and spotlights, things I've considered almost my entire time here as gestures of recognition from people that you made something they like and they appreciate your work, when some of your best stuff gets absolutely nothing, it's genuinely a disgrace.
+5I may not agree with everything said in the forum, but the sentiment of "upvote for meme value" on something that isn't even a meme is just bad.
Would definitely love to have this fixed, been having to deal with it since I first began playing, and it's genuinely the worst bug in SP's designer imo.
+5I've got a feeling WW1 would of been inevitable. Even if it didn't happen exactly when it did, it was bound to happen a year earlier or later. Though, WW2 is something up to contention, since it was explicitly the outcome of WW1.
+5I gotta say, for what SledDriver prides himself on ("First, and so far the the only player to successfully build a wide variety of generatedshapes using scripts." and had something thats now been removed about creating a "sideways building technique"), he really isn't the first at doing anything he claims.
+5There's a user by the name of JDM who was scripting vehicles over a year before he had even joined, and I was building flying wings with this "sideways building technique" before he even got into scripting his builds.
love checking into SP just to get gatekeeped over a Sherman
+5Alright, everyone quit with this witch hunting nonsense.
+5Last thing we want is more shenanigans after yesterday.
Add the XML attribute "maxSpeed" and add whatever number you want in its separate space, with Overload
+5The Luftwaffe is slowly building up a backlog of 109s to contest British airspace in the coming weeks
+5Pretty weird sub ngl.
+4Tracks plz
+4Wasn't CptJacobson banned from SP a few months back for actively stealing large chunks of peoples builds, just to pass them off as his own?
+4not to mention, and this can be subjective, but me and a lot of others from my former SLRP find him a pretty bad RP'er
that's a weird looking hotdog
+4I guess you can say it was a rhetorical question, because I wasn't expecting much of a response
+4@BlackhattAircraft
I'd put money on Halcyon for the sole reason the country has absurd amounts of equipment you'd expect from 10 years in the future (which I guess is expected from the RP since everyone likes to throw around "2030" and "2045" and etc in posts), yet has WMDs you'd expect from 100 years in the future with literally no explanation how, or any sort of infrastructure to even remotely support such a super weapon.
Not to mention they apparently have the most advanced transport, landing craft, and resource management systems because they can just manage to land massive armies on small hostile islands with no repercussions to supply, infrastructure, moral, or loss of allied life.
Though, CRV does have a really nice and well put together emblem/flag.
+4Can't wait to obtain this thing through such illegal means, that it loops back around into being legal.
+3The dummy part is still in the game and fully useable, just you need to find an plane somewhere on thr site with it to get the dummy part.
+3Can it stand up to the Giga Char 2C though?
+3Devs used to quite a lot a few years ago, but by now its mostly just the mods occasionally upvoting.
+3Same
+3Mods predominantly feature stuff, but the past year they've really been slacking on features.
Kinda feel like there could be more mods, might end up ending a fair few of the gripes people have.
+3I found this quite a wonderful plane, it flew amazingly well and turned like nothing else.
+3The weapons too were pretty fun to use, petting me able to sink the USS Tiny while turning around to attack the Wright Convoy.
The only complaints I have over this aircraft is maybe seeing about moving the primary wing back a little bit so CoM wasn't right on top of CoL, which I think would help with difficulties I had taking off.
Its that, and maybe the cockpit should be a bit taller, but aside from those minor gripes, its a well made and detailed aircraft. I especially enjoyed the cockpit view.
cough cough the only thing not to scale would like be the dummy, the thing you said why "this is one massive vehicle"
+3So yeah, I'm pretty tired of hearing people from IDA just coming up and acting all superior with vehicles that can't drive straight in some cases, don't build in scale just to complain to others about scale, and cough cough uncalled for insults and threats
@KerlonceauxIndustries
Ah, yes, defaulting to the "not to scale" excuse, y'know, the one that might as well be "just because"?
+3.
Edit: isn't it also ironic for you to claim my to-scale Psuedo-MBT is giant, just for when the same claim is made your way just for you to say "it's not to scale"?
@KerlonceauxIndustries
who knew poking holes in your shoddy and paper-thin logic made you toxic?
+3I've stated this in another post on the same subject, its just theres a few people who absolutely refuse to use Discord (for various reasons I don't believe), and I'm pretty close to announcing SLRP move to Discord and anyone who can't will be left behind.
+3Yeah, I guess I can send some support your way.
+3I've got a cargo ship mostly filled with my expeditionary force in the Pacific that I can redirect to your islands.
That, and a ballistic missile submarine.
Ah, such lovely choices of liveries;
+3-slighty grey white
-slightly dark white
-slightly greyer white
though 163rd Squadron I find the best grey
That's a weird looking hotdog.
+3Um, sure. I guess I can help.
+3Define "hate speech" for us all, please.
+3I'm just curious, but how's this any different from the numerous ahistorical RPs already done of WW2?
+3I've come under the impression that he either started something with someone he really shouldn't of, or he took a step back and took a look at the crap he started in the past.
+3and it's pretty easy to realistically assume either happened
Use some magic, but not too much.
+3Idk, mods just tend to feature what they like, but considering how rare features have gotten over this year they must not like much anymore.
+2Personally find the idea of making replicas to be pretty boring. Don't really like making them, and the way most people do it now kinda just looks like a game of tracing blueprints with fuselage blocks.
+2Have made some replicas in the past, and they can be nice for sure when others add a good bit of quality, just personal opinion and stuff.
Van pls
+2Uh, SP came out on PC a while before mobile...
+2No u
+2@rexzion