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cant improve pitch on a plane

929 Hugo1plays  5.8 years ago

well i managed to solve it. thanks @JovianPat

im trying to make the plane flyable but no matter what i do it doesnt work. i keep making the wings bigger or adding more wings and more rcns but it doesnt work. i also cant add any weight to the plane because i would have to add a million parts.

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    27.3k JovianPat

    @Hugo1plays Hey you solved it? Great! Keep on building, and you can surpass me sometime.

    5.8 years ago
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    27.3k JovianPat

    @MechWARRIOR57 Well you can add more RCNs if you want.

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    shouldn't you have four for yaw? so you can have more effective yaw @JovianPat

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    27.3k JovianPat

    @Hugo1plays You're welcome. You can also check this plane which has a modded structural wing with control surfaces. This wing will not break no matter how fast you go. Save the wing to sub-assembly, and go crazy with it!

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    @JovianPat ill try sometime. thanks.

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    27.3k JovianPat

    @Hugo1plays Looks like I found the problem...your plane is way too heavy, and it has a very high wing loading. Some tips :

    • Try putting less engines (one VTOL engine and two main jets is enough). This helps reducing the weight. Because you are using an infinite fuel tank, there's no need to put fuel in the fuselage.

    • Your CoL (centre of lift) is too far away from the CoM (centre of mass). Try adding a hidden wing near the front of your plane so the CoL moves closer to the CoM. The control surfaces shouldn't be too big.

    • Also there are way too many VTOL RCNs, you only need six of them. Two for roll, pitch, and yaw. Place the RCNs far away from the CoM for better effect.
      Hope this helps! I like your plane, it has quite amount of details on it.

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    @JovianPat well thanks for the attempt, but i seriously have no idea how to fix that.
    the main problem is the horrible pitch. then another problem is that the wings explode when i go about 1500 mph (press ag 2 for supersonic boost) but maybe i can fix that myself. or dont fly too fast. its a ww2 plane after all.

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    27.3k JovianPat

    @Hugo1plays Don't give up! I'll help you. I'll check your plane and see if I can make it better.

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    screw this plane, i give up. nothing works. it is unstable breaks and it steers horribly. ill just trash it and quit sp for now.

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    @Delphinus @ChiChiWerx
    https://www.simpleplanes.com/a/R50az6/Messerschmitt-Me-262-HG-III-H-0-vtol there, uploaded and unlisted. by the way how do i make links with words? many people make a link and then just write "there" and "there" will be the link. if you get what i mean.
    because of the weird undo and redo system, there is an unwanted vtol nozzle on the back. remove it because it is not supposed to be there.

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    28.7k ChiChiWerx

    What are you building? Also, an unlisted link to the build in question might also help someone to help you to fix the issue. Or, you could tag someone who might be able to help.

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    @MechWARRIOR57 that moves the com about an inch. by the time i have reached the desired place for com i will have 10000 parts and i will be 5 years older.

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    @Hugo1plays there are weights you have to use the fuselage block and you can add 1000 pounds to the plane

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    @Delphinus i dont get it, what do you mean with wing trick? its just a regular plane that looks amazing? i also took the wings apart but i see nothing special.

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    @Delphinus the thing is, i cant really just change com and col or the wing location because im doing a replica on a real plane. something i would need is simply a big weight so i could push com all the way back to get a better pitch.

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    i tried adding more wings, changing the air foil, making the control surfaces larger, adding more and more rcns and trying to change the com wich is impossible because there are no real weights in the game.

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    @Delphinus and how exactly does that help me?

    5.8 years ago