I know it's a joke but all those upvotes aren't funny, first of all because this plane obviously don't deserve all those upvotes so it's just like saying "look this is crap we are going to make fun of it", also it can be very frustrating for all the players who always try's to make good planes and don't even get to 30 upvotes....
damn, I'm 20 years old now, started playing this game when I was 13, and now it's over.
but actually no !
it's really sad to see this game come to an end, yeah it's the last update, and the player base will slowly get thinner and thinner from now on.
but we will never let this game die, we complain a lot but we already have everything we need, we can literally build anything ! a lot of random players ask for more weapons, engines, screens and stuff but...we can build all that stuff, and it is somehow the fun part of that game, we don't have much to do once we finished our builds, so guys, keep enjoying what this game has to offer to us : the ultimate building experience.
people should be known for their records and points ? bruh.
what about the fact that people aren't known anymore for their builds quality but only for how many internet points they can get.
In a community like this one I don't think it would be a good idea for girls to show up, it would be awesome if they could but people here are sometimes just so stupid and strange with girls.
what the fuck is wrong with all the people saying "t", can't you also say gg to him for making such amazing things, no hello, no gg, no wow, you guys only know how to say "t"
Hi, I love the Mirage F1, it's a fantastic plane and you did a great job at making it (even tho I really doesn't like this livery). The plane looks good, like it's maybe the best looking Mirage F1 out here (and you made a CT, lovely version) but there are some things hat could have been improved like the trailing edge of the wings, the cross section around the cockpit and the fact that you used very laggy imported images, it looks nice but cause lag for nothing.
About the flight model tho, things are less good. The plane accelerates way to fast, it's almost a STOL, this with the fact that the plane has way too much lift, it takes of in 1 second.
Second thing is the roll rate, the Mirage F1 was very agile I had a great roll rate (also, the vertical stabs doesn't have roll inputs IRL), but yours roll like a A380. Besides, the pitch capabilities are insane, it can take up to 15 Gs in the turns and -10 Gs, of course it's totally too much.
But don't take all this has a "f*ck you you're bad", you did a really great job on it, just need some improvements, but that's the point of the game, at least I hope you had fun building it and flying it, because it's a fantastic looking plane !
I do agree on one thing, I just hope that the building mechanisms and th designer will start almost the same. I know that a lot of people are looking for something making everything easy but I think that we like SP because it is hard and Time consuming when you want to do good stuff.
In my opinion SP2 should focus on gameplay, new and better graphics, better optimisation to make the main point of this game so much better : building
(and as I said, DON'T TOUCH THE BUILDING MECHANISMS THEY ARE GREAT)
1 : Sonic Boom would be nice. 2 : Pretty complicated to add, the mod already do somehow a good job. 3 : Why not, like the sonic boom it would add some visuals. 4 : The only "tank part" that should be added are tracks, other things can be made thanks to skills. 5 : No, you can make your wing thanks to fuselage parts, just get good. It won't be fun anymore if it is too easy. 6 : Yes, because why not. 7 : No it would cause more lag, but a better AI option panel would be great, with more configurations ans options. 8 : No, same as for the wings, get good, it's a sandbox game, build stuff. 9 : There is way enough cockpit parts, look at what people already do. 10 : Canopy parts ? Once again, the fuselage block exist. 11 : Like SR 2 ? Would be nice if rotators, pistons and shocks still have so many problems. Otherways it's pretty easy to make custom landing gears. 12 : Stupid, for kikoos. You can make your own custom weapons. 13 : Same answer, make custom weapons, you can't ask to the devs to make every single weapons that exists IRL. 14 : ????? There are VTOL engines bruh.... 15 : Why ? Maybe more options to the already existing ones but no need for more. 16 : Yes, I would even say a new map, it's a game mostly about planes, and the only thing we got to see most of the time is water, a really terrain would be nice. 17 : Just create your locations. 18 : Better races'. 19 : Better missions'. 20 : No ?
I don't see more or less players, the website is actually pretty active, SP related discord servers still have a lot going on, builds are still posted A LOT and the last update a bring so much new a awesome things that the best players just take their time to build since there's so much to do now. The game has never been as awesome as it is today. And it's not because there isn't an upvote everyday that it is dying, some people play gamesit from the 90s, do you really think they are waiting for an update ? No, they just enjoy the game for what it is, and SP is an awesome sandbox game. It will die, as every game will, but trust me, SimplePlanes is still alive and for a pretty long time.
@IICXLVIICDLXXXIIIDCXLVII I kinda feel like people are trying to get upvotes in every way possible, but it's only in my mind I guess. The rules aren't clear enough to make conclusions. Some challenges have better written rules lol.
this is stupid, why would you put so much detail on something you don't even see when your fuselage isn't even that luch detailed or very good looking ? put parts where it is important to put parts, not on something we don't even see
COL has nothing to do with speed, in SP and in real life, the things that you have to look at is thrust, mass and drag.
It also works in SP, the only thing is that sweep wings doesn't change the drag amount when sweept, because the parts have a fixed amount of drag, but changing your COL won't do much to the speed. The point of changing the weep of the wing is just to reduce the drag, less resistance to the air means more potential speed.
make an AI version of the plane which you want to take a screenshot with. In this AI version, remove all weapons, or disable them if you want to see them (like put an ActivationGroup on it, AI can't use them). Then reduce the engine power of it just a bit, so if YOU reduce throttle, it will be able to follow you, but at the very moment or it will go past you and turn, just accelerate a little and it won't be able to go faster than you. Then just spawn it as agressive of course. With all this you can fly in formation for hours.
@ReinMcDeer Yup, for me, it's kinda like all those games that have far more things in mind than Minecraft, better storys, more crafts, more blocks and stuff, but still, Minecraft stays because it has this thingy thingy
I'm pretty sure SP won't die, I mean FlyOut looks really great and cool but I honestly think that we won't find in FlyOut this thingy thingy we found in SimplePlanes, this weaird feeling of a game that actually doesn't want to help you. I mean, when FlyOut will be out, I'm sure it will be very easy to make realistic looking planes, it's already the case for the few good players on it. But what's the point of making it too easy ? What's the point of building if you're not doing it because it's challenging ? I like SP a lot, and of course this game still needs a lot of updates to get the job done. But I really hope that it will stay like it is, with complexe FT, weird ass shapes to make in 20hours, unrealisitc flight models that you can make good, all those shitty builds on the website and all the awesome ones. SimplePlanes in I think the ultimate sandboxe game in term of pure building.
it's just too bad of an idea for so many reasons like bruh wtf. they don't have the money for it, and the money they have they won't waste it for that. upvotes are already useless, so what's the point of generating money with it since people will farm points, making them even more worthless. and making money out of points will make people build for money, not for fun, which is perfect to destroy the main spirit of a building game.
@ColonelCanada what's the the point of your comment ? I don't beg for upvotes, make a ton of build to farm them or complain about wanted more or not having enough.
@Scratchoza Hi didn't know it was you ! I said that this game allow people to make whatever they want, and your build was a good exemple of that, told them it was a really nice creation ! congrats I really liked your build.
@WarHawk95 And it kinda looks like that other Mirage 2000 that we make fun of, almost sure that he used piece of the other build or at least copied some parts.
@Qingqiu See the cockpit ? For what ? Understand the part-count ? It's not an excuse, my last build as a cockpit too and I my build is still at 1000 parts, NOT 3000. And having a good looking cockpit is a thing, but when your plane flys like a brick well the cockpit isn't really useful.
@AWESOMENESS360 I call this disgrace, I don't care about how many upvotes I get because I'm not that good, but when I see some goddamn god creations that can barely hit the 50 upvotes and this crap who can get 100 upvotes just for a "meme" (by the way it isn't a meme) it's shocking.
The game isn't dying, I would even say that it just entered a new golden age thanks to the last update.
People just think there is less and less players because as always, new players buy the game, play for 1 hour, think that the game is too complicated and leave, always has been like that.
The only difference is that at the time, good builders posted more oftenly, because there was less to play with (less coding, no variables, no cockpit parts, less parts). Now most good players take a lot of time to post because they take a lot of time to build, not because they are lazy, because there's so much more to explore now.
That's way there is much more shitty builds out here than good builds : most new players don't stay, good builders take their time, casual players post every two days shitty builds.
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The community is still as big as before, it just doesn't act the same as before.
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I agree with one thing : better advertisement or more advertisement would be awesome.
@PZLAerospace why do you want my age ? like if I'm younger than you I'm the one in fault ? I'm 20, cool right, but this as nothing to do with this discussion lol. I didn't start anything, just asked you to say "please" when you ask stupid stuff to the devs, but you keep answering which is stupid (I do the same but everybody already know Irm stupid haha)
@PlaneFlightX For real, the game is almost perfect, but this would be awesome. Also be able to choose which VTOL nozzle is connected to which VTOL engine to be able to make a fully functional two engine plane with After burner, it works but it has limitations when it comes to realistic start ups and engines split throttles
testing notes :
-When you look around the cockpit (in cockpit view) on the ground, the plane will move a lot and change it's heading, especially when looking behind.
-The manual is a great addition but isn't always very clear, especially the start-up part where it's not always well said where to find what.
-Suspensions are pretty hard.
-Lacks of a second cockpit view camera for the gunsight, would have been a little easier with one, simulating the pilot looking closer to it.
_ Beside this, the build is awesome, I'm a big fan of DCS and this clearly is a fantastic work. The model is great, the livery is very cool and wow this cockpit interior, so many details just looks so good. The plane flys great and when you take care of it while flying it's fantastic.
Awesome work !
@YellowThing @IAlsoBuildPlane @Hannyboy guys, chill out. Everybody can enter the challenge, it's just at their own risk.
Thanks for the help but don't worry about it.
@Rifimaka no it doesn't, it's not about the center of lift, in fact, the more you're COL will be close to your tail, the more maniability (making your aircraft more unstable) you'll get. And when you retract variable sweep wings, the COL goes closer to the tail, so it should give you more maniability. BUT
When you do this, you change the way your wings create lift, enough to make the airplane actually less agile than before.
In SP however, it doesn't work, well it work for the "agility" part, but the drag doesn't change so the speed isn't affected, but IRL it is how it works.
The only thing that makes the plane go fatser (IRL, since it's not replicated in SP) is the reduced drag due to the wing being sweept back. Indeed you can test it in-game, your top speed won't changen but your agility will.
And keep in mind that there's no "the less or the more you turn", since IRL pilots doesn't use a kyeboard (so full inputs), they can decide how hard they turn, you can keep a high speed even with un-retracted wings, just pull too hard on the pitch. And it's not really about how hard you turn, but how much AoA you reach.
But top speed doesn't have anything to do with turning speed, so it isn't even a thing to talk about I guess.
I know it's a joke but all those upvotes aren't funny, first of all because this plane obviously don't deserve all those upvotes so it's just like saying "look this is crap we are going to make fun of it", also it can be very frustrating for all the players who always try's to make good planes and don't even get to 30 upvotes....
+23@ElvivKauam like you can do better lol
+17damn, I'm 20 years old now, started playing this game when I was 13, and now it's over.
+16but actually no !
it's really sad to see this game come to an end, yeah it's the last update, and the player base will slowly get thinner and thinner from now on.
but we will never let this game die, we complain a lot but we already have everything we need, we can literally build anything ! a lot of random players ask for more weapons, engines, screens and stuff but...we can build all that stuff, and it is somehow the fun part of that game, we don't have much to do once we finished our builds, so guys, keep enjoying what this game has to offer to us : the ultimate building experience.
people should be known for their records and points ? bruh.
+16what about the fact that people aren't known anymore for their builds quality but only for how many internet points they can get.
In a community like this one I don't think it would be a good idea for girls to show up, it would be awesome if they could but people here are sometimes just so stupid and strange with girls.
+9when cave update ?
+8this thing should be racing on a track what a beast 🔥🔥 and it's even good looking 🥵
+8haters be like 🗿
what the fuck is wrong with all the people saying "t", can't you also say gg to him for making such amazing things, no hello, no gg, no wow, you guys only know how to say "t"
+8I'm sure one person will jer* off while playing this wtf is that
+7Hi, I love the Mirage F1, it's a fantastic plane and you did a great job at making it (even tho I really doesn't like this livery). The plane looks good, like it's maybe the best looking Mirage F1 out here (and you made a CT, lovely version) but there are some things hat could have been improved like the trailing edge of the wings, the cross section around the cockpit and the fact that you used very laggy imported images, it looks nice but cause lag for nothing.
+7About the flight model tho, things are less good. The plane accelerates way to fast, it's almost a STOL, this with the fact that the plane has way too much lift, it takes of in 1 second.
Second thing is the roll rate, the Mirage F1 was very agile I had a great roll rate (also, the vertical stabs doesn't have roll inputs IRL), but yours roll like a A380. Besides, the pitch capabilities are insane, it can take up to 15 Gs in the turns and -10 Gs, of course it's totally too much.
But don't take all this has a "f*ck you you're bad", you did a really great job on it, just need some improvements, but that's the point of the game, at least I hope you had fun building it and flying it, because it's a fantastic looking plane !
I do agree on one thing, I just hope that the building mechanisms and th designer will start almost the same. I know that a lot of people are looking for something making everything easy but I think that we like SP because it is hard and Time consuming when you want to do good stuff.
+7In my opinion SP2 should focus on gameplay, new and better graphics, better optimisation to make the main point of this game so much better : building
(and as I said, DON'T TOUCH THE BUILDING MECHANISMS THEY ARE GREAT)
this Mig 31 is way better than the one from a player that I will not name but that has way to much points fot what he does
+71 : Sonic Boom would be nice.
+62 : Pretty complicated to add, the mod already do somehow a good job.
3 : Why not, like the sonic boom it would add some visuals.
4 : The only "tank part" that should be added are tracks, other things can be made thanks to skills.
5 : No, you can make your wing thanks to fuselage parts, just get good. It won't be fun anymore if it is too easy.
6 : Yes, because why not.
7 : No it would cause more lag, but a better AI option panel would be great, with more configurations ans options.
8 : No, same as for the wings, get good, it's a sandbox game, build stuff.
9 : There is way enough cockpit parts, look at what people already do.
10 : Canopy parts ? Once again, the fuselage block exist.
11 : Like SR 2 ? Would be nice if rotators, pistons and shocks still have so many problems. Otherways it's pretty easy to make custom landing gears.
12 : Stupid, for kikoos. You can make your own custom weapons.
13 : Same answer, make custom weapons, you can't ask to the devs to make every single weapons that exists IRL.
14 : ????? There are VTOL engines bruh....
15 : Why ? Maybe more options to the already existing ones but no need for more.
16 : Yes, I would even say a new map, it's a game mostly about planes, and the only thing we got to see most of the time is water, a really terrain would be nice.
17 : Just create your locations.
18 : Better races'.
19 : Better missions'.
20 : No ?
wow never saw an F-14 on the website !
+6kidding, good luck on this build, cool feature
I don't see more or less players, the website is actually pretty active, SP related discord servers still have a lot going on, builds are still posted A LOT and the last update a bring so much new a awesome things that the best players just take their time to build since there's so much to do now. The game has never been as awesome as it is today. And it's not because there isn't an upvote everyday that it is dying, some people play gamesit from the 90s, do you really think they are waiting for an update ? No, they just enjoy the game for what it is, and SP is an awesome sandbox game. It will die, as every game will, but trust me, SimplePlanes is still alive and for a pretty long time.
+6I didn't understand a single thing
+5@IICXLVIICDLXXXIIIDCXLVII I kinda feel like people are trying to get upvotes in every way possible, but it's only in my mind I guess. The rules aren't clear enough to make conclusions. Some challenges have better written rules lol.
+5no need for that, I'm a pro at flying this aircraft into bridges ;)
+5@IceCraftGaming thanks of what video goes brrrr
+5this is stupid, why would you put so much detail on something you don't even see when your fuselage isn't even that luch detailed or very good looking ? put parts where it is important to put parts, not on something we don't even see
+5@MTindustries kids want to be part of the problème, adults avoid them
+4You can already make radars thanks to FT
+4COL has nothing to do with speed, in SP and in real life, the things that you have to look at is thrust, mass and drag.
+4It also works in SP, the only thing is that sweep wings doesn't change the drag amount when sweept, because the parts have a fixed amount of drag, but changing your COL won't do much to the speed. The point of changing the weep of the wing is just to reduce the drag, less resistance to the air means more potential speed.
Upload an aircraft!
+4make an AI version of the plane which you want to take a screenshot with. In this AI version, remove all weapons, or disable them if you want to see them (like put an ActivationGroup on it, AI can't use them). Then reduce the engine power of it just a bit, so if YOU reduce throttle, it will be able to follow you, but at the very moment or it will go past you and turn, just accelerate a little and it won't be able to go faster than you. Then just spawn it as agressive of course. With all this you can fly in formation for hours.
+4@ReinMcDeer Yup, for me, it's kinda like all those games that have far more things in mind than Minecraft, better storys, more crafts, more blocks and stuff, but still, Minecraft stays because it has this thingy thingy
+4I'm pretty sure SP won't die, I mean FlyOut looks really great and cool but I honestly think that we won't find in FlyOut this thingy thingy we found in SimplePlanes, this weaird feeling of a game that actually doesn't want to help you. I mean, when FlyOut will be out, I'm sure it will be very easy to make realistic looking planes, it's already the case for the few good players on it. But what's the point of making it too easy ? What's the point of building if you're not doing it because it's challenging ? I like SP a lot, and of course this game still needs a lot of updates to get the job done. But I really hope that it will stay like it is, with complexe FT, weird ass shapes to make in 20hours, unrealisitc flight models that you can make good, all those shitty builds on the website and all the awesome ones. SimplePlanes in I think the ultimate sandboxe game in term of pure building.
+4very nice plane for the part count
+4I'm not into SP memes, but this got me into the funny
+4it's just too bad of an idea for so many reasons like bruh wtf. they don't have the money for it, and the money they have they won't waste it for that. upvotes are already useless, so what's the point of generating money with it since people will farm points, making them even more worthless. and making money out of points will make people build for money, not for fun, which is perfect to destroy the main spirit of a building game.
+4@ColonelCanada what's the the point of your comment ? I don't beg for upvotes, make a ton of build to farm them or complain about wanted more or not having enough.
+4@DatRoadTrainGuy19 yes, as a bad a example lol
+4@WarHawk95 I won't tag you, trash human ;)
+4@Scratchoza Hi didn't know it was you ! I said that this game allow people to make whatever they want, and your build was a good exemple of that, told them it was a really nice creation ! congrats I really liked your build.
+4@WarHawk95 And it kinda looks like that other Mirage 2000 that we make fun of, almost sure that he used piece of the other build or at least copied some parts.
+4@Qingqiu See the cockpit ? For what ? Understand the part-count ? It's not an excuse, my last build as a cockpit too and I my build is still at 1000 parts, NOT 3000. And having a good looking cockpit is a thing, but when your plane flys like a brick well the cockpit isn't really useful.
+4@KnightOfRen say the guy who was at first pinging people for no reason
+4@AWESOMENESS360 I call this disgrace, I don't care about how many upvotes I get because I'm not that good, but when I see some goddamn god creations that can barely hit the 50 upvotes and this crap who can get 100 upvotes just for a "meme" (by the way it isn't a meme) it's shocking.
+4@MTindustries if you weren't in the drama, there's no need for you to know, it will only cause more drama
+3The game isn't dying, I would even say that it just entered a new golden age thanks to the last update.
+3People just think there is less and less players because as always, new players buy the game, play for 1 hour, think that the game is too complicated and leave, always has been like that.
The only difference is that at the time, good builders posted more oftenly, because there was less to play with (less coding, no variables, no cockpit parts, less parts). Now most good players take a lot of time to post because they take a lot of time to build, not because they are lazy, because there's so much more to explore now.
That's way there is much more shitty builds out here than good builds : most new players don't stay, good builders take their time, casual players post every two days shitty builds.
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The community is still as big as before, it just doesn't act the same as before.
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I agree with one thing : better advertisement or more advertisement would be awesome.
@WrightDefense just don't put a radar in it ? duh
+3@PZLAerospace why do you want my age ? like if I'm younger than you I'm the one in fault ? I'm 20, cool right, but this as nothing to do with this discussion lol. I didn't start anything, just asked you to say "please" when you ask stupid stuff to the devs, but you keep answering which is stupid (I do the same but everybody already know Irm stupid haha)
+3screenshots made by me
+3@PlaneFlightX For real, the game is almost perfect, but this would be awesome. Also be able to choose which VTOL nozzle is connected to which VTOL engine to be able to make a fully functional two engine plane with After burner, it works but it has limitations when it comes to realistic start ups and engines split throttles
+3testing notes :
-When you look around the cockpit (in cockpit view) on the ground, the plane will move a lot and change it's heading, especially when looking behind.
-The manual is a great addition but isn't always very clear, especially the start-up part where it's not always well said where to find what.
-Suspensions are pretty hard.
-Lacks of a second cockpit view camera for the gunsight, would have been a little easier with one, simulating the pilot looking closer to it.
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+3Beside this, the build is awesome, I'm a big fan of DCS and this clearly is a fantastic work. The model is great, the livery is very cool and wow this cockpit interior, so many details just looks so good. The plane flys great and when you take care of it while flying it's fantastic.
Awesome work !
@YellowThing @IAlsoBuildPlane @Hannyboy guys, chill out. Everybody can enter the challenge, it's just at their own risk.
+3Thanks for the help but don't worry about it.
@Rifimaka no it doesn't, it's not about the center of lift, in fact, the more you're COL will be close to your tail, the more maniability (making your aircraft more unstable) you'll get. And when you retract variable sweep wings, the COL goes closer to the tail, so it should give you more maniability.
+3BUT
When you do this, you change the way your wings create lift, enough to make the airplane actually less agile than before.
In SP however, it doesn't work, well it work for the "agility" part, but the drag doesn't change so the speed isn't affected, but IRL it is how it works.
The only thing that makes the plane go fatser (IRL, since it's not replicated in SP) is the reduced drag due to the wing being sweept back. Indeed you can test it in-game, your top speed won't changen but your agility will.
And keep in mind that there's no "the less or the more you turn", since IRL pilots doesn't use a kyeboard (so full inputs), they can decide how hard they turn, you can keep a high speed even with un-retracted wings, just pull too hard on the pitch. And it's not really about how hard you turn, but how much AoA you reach.
But top speed doesn't have anything to do with turning speed, so it isn't even a thing to talk about I guess.
@OUGHTO it had to be done, beautiful planes, beautiful builds, bravo guys.
+3having this simulated ammo count in guns is pretty unique, very usefull for realism.
+3@IceCraftGaming then wait for me to cause drama
+3